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  "Apostasy"

  by Zilgee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the so called apostates of first century later became the catholic church.

  these apostates like saint athanasius, theologian, ecclesiastical statesman, and egyptian national leader decided which books would be part of the bible.

  we are now following what they decided.

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  joey jojo

  Jws will argue that God guided the compilation of the bible. For one to believe that, one also has no choice than to accept the influence of the catholic church in that process.

  There are more problems though. The earliest complete bibles contain the apocrypha. Does that mean these versions are the right ones, or are only the protestant versions that came 1500 yrs later and removed the apocrypha gods word?

  Jesus quoted from apocryphal books, so why don't we leave them in, and who decides that? Was it jesus, god, or men?

  If jesus quoted from the septuagint, why do jws prefer the much later masoretic text in their translation?

  Paul and Luke wrote about half the new testament between them, yet neither of them met jesus.
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  Scholar and Fisherman

  by Jorden in

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  2. beliefs

  scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.

  do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?

  if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?

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  joey jojo

  Jorden
  if you are an active JW and you are knowledgeable of their beliefs and if you are a honest person

  
  

  Theres your problem right there. For a JW to be loyal, they have to be dishonest.

  I still believe scholar might be trolling us though.
  
  
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  Good video

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  highly recommend this video from youtube.

  really well researched.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeggkcpkuve.

  it has an interesting section about the un and jw's involvement and its good to actually see the un letter concerning jw membership still on the un website.

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  joey jojo

  fastJehu

  This Awakes are still online:
  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101998843

  Heres what my drop down menu looks like:

  
  
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  Good video

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  highly recommend this video from youtube.

  really well researched.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeggkcpkuve.

  it has an interesting section about the un and jw's involvement and its good to actually see the un letter concerning jw membership still on the un website.

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  joey jojo

  Highly recommend this video from youtube. Really well researched.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeGgkcpkUVE
  

  It has an interesting section about the UN and JW's involvement and its good to actually see the UN letter concerning JW membership still on the UN website. here: https://www.un.org/en/civil-society/watchtowerletter

  The video shows the Awake articles that sucked up to the UN from the 90's, notably the articles from Oct and Nov 1998, which has a full page transcript of the UN declaration of human rights. Big surprise, the 1998 Awake is missing from the JW.org library. Coincidence?
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  July 2023 Study Watchtower - Great Tribulation is coming soooooooooooooon!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is this the "great tribulation" which jesus warned he would bring upon the corrupt christian congregations worldwide, (revelation 2:22; 7:14) or is it the same 1st century g.t.

  which he said would never occur again?

  (matthew 24:21).

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  joey jojo

  Picked it :)

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5083156003684352/start-great-tribulation-will-announced-soon
  
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  Joined an online meeting incognito

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.

  watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.

  inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..

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  Journeyman
  About 50% of the congs I know of are still not coming to meetings in person, and that's definitely more than the number who are genuinely housebound or who have debilitating conditions that prevent them from attending regularly (usually no more than 10-15 people in any congregation). Of those who do attend on Zoom, hardly any turn their cameras on now.

  
  

  The people that dont turn on their cameras are the same ones that trash talk and shun ex-jw's that dont buy into it anymore, yet they cant even turn on their cameras to encourage others?

  For a comparison, during the pandemic, gym members logged into zoom classes, with their cameras on. All of these people couldnt wait to get back to real life classes. Now, gyms are full again, unlike kingdom halls.
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  Joined an online meeting incognito

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.

  watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.

  inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..

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  slimboyfat
  How could you tell how many people were in the Kingdom Hall. Do they give you a view of the whole hall on the Zoom video?

  No - Its just that I still know people that attend that cong so I have an idea of the usual attendance.
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  Joined an online meeting incognito

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  got a link for a zoom meeting and thought id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.. guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.. 50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.

  watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.

  inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.. interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol..

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  joey jojo

  Got a link for a zoom meeting and thought Id share my experience about the mid-week meeting.

  Guessing about 100 - 120 in cong.

  50 on zoom, only 8 with cameras on - all elderly.

  Watching from a detached point of view it's so obvious at how it is nothing but a glorified sales meeting, all designed to promote the org.

  Inspirational videos about how everyone can/ should do more to help with projects, in particular how to look after the kingdom hall, complete with bar charts showing levels of achievement to aspire to.

  Interestingly, tonights book study is about alcohol.
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  Young "Elders"

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ever since the annual meeting last october and the letter to bodies of elders stating that "exceptional young men perhaps in their early 20's could qualify for appointment as elders.." it even states this in the updated elders manual!

  have any of you pimo's, pimq's, or those on here with family/friends still in hear of any young men being appointed as elders yet?

  i am talking 21, 22, 23, 24 etc.

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  joey jojo

  20 yr old elder goes to married couples house to provide encouragement.

  Husband isnt home.

  20 yr elder is seduced by hot, mature married woman

  Game Over.
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  Mark if the beast coin

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  rev, 13:17and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

  here is wisdom.

  let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666.".

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  joey jojo

  You can google vaccines and ditgital id and article will come up about it. It would appear from videos I have watched, that those who took the jabs can be tracked and monitored.

  Heres an article I googled but it doesnt agree with you, does that still count?:

  https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/is-it-true/is-it-true-do-covid-19-vaccines-contain-a-microchip-or-any-kind-of-tracking-technology#:~:text=None%20of%20the%20COVID%2D19,Find%20out%20more%20below.
  

  If you own a mobile phone, or use the internet you have been 'tracked and monitored' for years.